czy mógłby mi ktoś przybliżyć nowozelandzkie i amerykańskie reguły gry w go? nigdzie tego nie znalazłem, a jestem ciekawe (na kgs można je ustawić, ale chyba nik z nich nie korzysta)

z góry dziękuje

I na kgsie powinieneś poszukac odpowiedzi na swoje pytanie.
W helpie: The new game window -> There is a help page available that explains the different rule sets.

The Kiseido Go Server supports several different rule sets, named after either the organization that uses them or the country where they are common. In some cases the rule sets implemented are not quite the official rules for the organization that they are named after; for example, several different rule sets are allowed in an AGA tournament. The following rule sets are used on the Kiseido Go Server:
Japanese
In a Japanese game, score is the sum of captures and territory. Seki does not count as territory. If the board enters a long repeating cycle that neither player wants to break, the game is scored as no-result. Note: The Japanese system of solving disputes that happen at the end of the game is not available. If players cannot agree whether a group is alive or dead, they must accept the judgement of a third neutral player.
Chinese
In a Chinese game, score is the sum of territory and stones on the board. A superko rule is used to prevent long repeating cycles. If players disagree about the life and death of stones after the game ends, they simply undo and play out the situation. The white player is given one point extra komi for every handicap stone that Black gets at the start of the game. Note: There is some ambiguity in the official Chinese rules regarding ko and ending the game. The rules used on KGS are believed to be the most accurate interpretation possible.
AGA
AGA (American Go Assocaition) rules on the Kiseido Go Server use the "area counting" option. That is, they are played the same as Chinese rules, except that the white player is given one point of extra komi for all but the first handicap stone that Black gets at the start of the game. The AGA also lets players count score by territory, as in Japanese scoring, but the AGA rules are set up so that the two scoring systems always give exactly the same final result for the game. Since the Kiseido Go Server always does the counting for the players, which system is actually used doesn't matter.
New Zealand
New Zealand rules are like Chinese rules except that playing a multi-stone suicide move is allowed. This is the only rule set that permits this kind of suicide.

Miłej lektury.

no tak, najciemniej pod latarnia

jesli wszystko dobrze zrozumialem to jest tak:

amerykanskie zasady:
- takie jak chińskie tyle, ze za kazdy hadnicap dla czarnego bialy otrzymuje wieksze komi

czyli np. jesli normalne komi jest 6.5 i do tego czarny bedzie mial dwa handi to komi przestawia sie na 8.5, dobrze rozumiem?


nowozelandzkie zasady:
- takie jak chinskie tyle, ze dozwolone sa "samobojstwa" duzych grup

czyli niechcacy moge sobie sam zabic duza liczbe kamieni?

nieco dziwne


jakby bylo inaczej to niech mnie ktos poprawi

Przy handikapach komi redukuje się do 0,5 pt. Generalnie na kgs większość gier odbywa się wg reguł japońskich, bardzo rzadko stosowane są chińskie czy amerykańskie.

Mozliwosc popelnienia samobojstwa duza grupa kamieni ma inne znaczenie niz mozliwosc przypadkowego skasowania sobie grupy (co jest wlasciwie niewyobrazalne). Oto przyklad, gdzie cos ona daje:

Grozba ko w regulach INGa i NZ

Czarny oczywiscie jest zywy, jednak jesli bialy zagra w punkt oznaczony kwadratem, robi sie nakade i czarny zeby przezyc musi zrobic oczy. W regulach bez mozliwosci samobojstwa czarny zyje i nie ma zadnych grozb. Oprocz jednak tego typu ko-date, regula ta nic chyba nie zmienia.

dzieki za uzupelnienie mojej wiedzy chyba juz wszystko rozumiem